Karen Rohlf does dressage, Naturally… plays with her horse at liberty, bridle-less and with a bridle. Pirouettes, piaffe, stretching and collection.
Duration : 0:4:19
Karen Rohlf does dressage, Naturally… plays with her horse at liberty, bridle-less and with a bridle. Pirouettes, piaffe, stretching and collection.
Duration : 0:4:19
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
THIS is dressage
THIS is dressage
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Natural beauty is …
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February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
wow! thats amazing. …
wow! thats amazing…
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
This is the way …
This is the way dressage was suppose to always be…Natural and beautiful…
My overwhelming compliments..
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Beautiful video! …
Beautiful video! great horsehandling, great riding, and all looks really natural! Congratulations
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
actually, there’s …
actually, there’s neither real extension nor real collection. the horse’s back is extruded, it is banging its tail, the croup line is going up, not down.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
oh thats cool!
oh thats cool!
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Hi…
how do we …
Hi…
how do we know they are happy?… it is always a ‘best guess’ but I think when you do things at liberty or bridleless the horse certainly has opportunities to leave or do as they prefer… but yes, people could be cruel and forceful even in liberty work… I guess the main thing is how willingly they choose to show up the next day for more of the same!!
What do when given options?
And how can it be done in a way that I can sleep at night!
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Hi… well, it is …
Hi… well, it is only low when i am asking him to stretch, it comes up when i ask him to come up! Just wanted to show how much the neck and body can change shape just through talking to the body.
thanks for the compliments!
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
may I ask why his …
may I ask why his head is so low?? usually the horses heads are a bit higher. great riding and horseman ship!!
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
marvelous … bravo
marvelous … bravo
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
I also like your …
I also like your point about the quiet happiness of mutual grooming or just ‘hanging out’. I think that can translate to interaction with humans, too. My two-year-old spent a solid 20 minutes this morning following me around while I mucked out the corral and three-sided shed. Since she was there anyway, I started asking her to yield forequarters, hindquarters, back up, etc. as I walked past with a forkful of manure. This was apparently more interesting to her than her pile of hay. Go figure.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
I tend to apply the …
I tend to apply the same criteria– exuberance. I think anytime the horse offers you something with more energy than is necessary to simply avoid negative reinforcement, he or she is participating with you. I look to things done at liberty for insight. When my ex-kid’s-lesson-horse, who is now my Parelli levels horse, started trotting to the gate when I showed up with a halter instead of listlessly wandering to the far end of the pasture, I knew he was beginning to happily participate.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Glad you found the …
Glad you found the question interesting. It is a genuine one. Some people on here seem to think that if you ask questions to try and get a clearer understanding you are criticising.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
I can see where you …
I can see where you are coming from & would agree. I could also see a scenario where companions are mutually grooming one another and there is a quieter expression of happiness. In both situations I would argue that the individual horse has control of whether they participate of not – so there is self-expression. However if you move to a scenario where a trainer is ‘working’ a horse what behaviours would indicate that the horse is treating the ‘work’ as ‘play’ or collaborating & is ‘happy’?
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
she is a GREAT …
she is a GREAT rider and horseman! amazing how well they get along. however, i’m concerned that her arms and hands were stiff and rigid when she had tack on. the horse didn’t seem to mind though..
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
TheMoyse, I find …
TheMoyse, I find your question a very interesting one. I think, for prey animals, that the expenditure of unnecessary energy which is not motivated by fear, might be construed as “happiness”. Picture a herd, tearing around a pasture on the first cool day of fall, bucking, play-fighting, and frolicking. In the wild, such behavior would not further survival, since it wastes vital energy and attracts attention. For that reason, I think it might be defined as ‘play’. Thoughts?
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Great job training …
Great job training him/her. He/she looks happy.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
That wasn’t my …
That wasn’t my question – I am asking about how you know when a horse is happy. An absence of anger doesn’t equal happiness. If anyone knows the answer to my question please let me know.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Perhaps you should …
Perhaps you should spend more time around horses and take the time to understand their behavior. I can assure you that when a horse puts its ears back out of anger, you will know.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Yes I have both. I …
Yes I have both. I interpret some of their behaviours as indicating that some of the time they are happy – but I could be wrong. I think you can only theorize that cats, dogs and horses feel happiness as we understand it. The reason for my question was that someone said that the horse looked unhappy because its ears were backk etc but someone else interpreted this as the horse concentrating or making an effort like an athelete would.
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Do you own a dog? …
Do you own a dog? Or a cat? Are your pets happy?
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
eg, the alpha in a …
eg, the alpha in a wild herd of horses would apply pressure through the act of biting, driving one of it’s members away from him/her….if you can mimic this through pressure with your hand/stick BUT do NOT hurt the horse and DONT’ do it out of fear/frustration/anger, then you are communication with the horse on a level they are much more likely to understand
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
you are so right in …
you are so right in a way…there is no such thing as completely positive reinforcement in animal training. how it becomes ‘natural” though, is when you apply pressure in much the same way an animal would experience out in the wild with their own kind. for
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
@TheMoyse It isnt …
@TheMoyse It isnt done with force or coersion, when you really understand how the horse thinks and what his instincts cause him to do you can then cause your idea to become his idea. Once you get the communication with your horse and you and him are on the “same page” they start to offer things to you because they are using the “thinking side” of their brain. With that you build on each thought. They really learn to read your energy and ‘thoughts” if you will.