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Beginning Horse Riding : Collection Horse Training a Lope
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Training a horse to lope with collection horse training will allow the horse rider and horse to move together. Learn how to train a horse to lope using collection training with tips from a horse trainer in this free horse riding video.
Expert: Kathy Kentala
Bio: Kathy Kentala has been a horse enthusiast since she was six years old. Kathy owns the Bee Cave Riding Center in Texas and specializes in training youth groups.
Filmmaker: MAKE | MEDIA
Duration : 0:2:22
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I’m sorry but to …
I’m sorry but to call this collection is just desperate. This horse has no idea how to be collected because it is not balanced. He doesn’t know how to carry himself let alone a human on his back. He needs to be ridden FORWARDS into self-carriage and be able to balance himself and his rider before he can be “collected” or, more acccurately, ridden into self-carriage.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
thank you!!
But …
thank you!!
But I would like to give credit to her for mentioning that collection is about moving off the hind leg and into the bridle, this trainer does not talk about just slowing the horse down.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
This is not a bad …
This is not a bad video, she explains clearly the pressure/release/reward training aspect.
BUT, it really really bugs me when people use the word “collection” to mean “slow”.
Maybe the western community uses it more interchangebly. In the dressage world, going slow and thinking it’s “collection” is a BIG no-no!
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
i know, I hate …
i know, I hate expertvillage
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
oh yeah sure. thats …
oh yeah sure. thats a new rider
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
no thats not …
no thats not collection either, collection is through the back and neck and haunches… if this is western collection they should come up with another term for it.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
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December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
A variation of the …
A variation of the canter, seen in western riding, is called a lope, and generally is quite slow, no more than 13-19 km/h (8-12 mph).
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
There is no …
There is no see-sawing, silly.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
actually he is… …
actually he is… would you only accept the horse licking his chest as collection? remember this is western riding… in many riding disciplines you do not ride from your seat in the same way you do in dressage, especially w/western
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
oh wow, this is …
oh wow, this is just aweful. im shocked to this up as a training video… first of all that horse is not collected at any point in the video, collection comes from the seat, not the hands being spaced out like that…i even saw the girl see-saw the bit back and fourth in the horses mouth, this video is just bizzare…..
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
well im sure she …
well im sure she probably is, the girl just hasnt gotten the hang of it yet. Im sure i didnt collect a horse properly when i first learned to collect a horse.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
but should the …
but should the person not be trying to teach her how to collect the horse properly?
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I never said the …
I never said the horse was collected… But i did say the rider is green. You dont start out riding knowing how to collect a horse, I thought that was pretty obvious. Im sure when I first started riding i did the same thing! Untill I learned better of it. Im sure, with an expierenced rider this horse would collect and move into a frame.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Even if it is a …
Even if it is a green rider the horse is not collected and she isn’t even going about it the right way because collection deosn’t come from pulling the head in at all, It comes from sitting the horse on its hind end and using the energy the horse is creating in his haunches to get it to stretch over his back and round up to make the gait swinging, relaxed and uphill.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
The video is NOT …
The video is NOT called begining collection, its called begining riding. Big difference. Im sure the rider really doesnt know what she is doing, If they put an experienced rider on the horse that can do it. How are the people watching that dont know how gonna be able to do it? It is obvious that the horse is not collected because the rider doesnt know how, however the trainer seems knowledgable and shows the beggining stages in teaching yourself, or your horse how to collect.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Then these people …
Then these people need to watch Al Dunning, Tim McQuay, or Bob Avila videos because THEY do it right. This person is only pulling the horse into the bridle when the video is called beginning collection. The horse is still working on his forehand and this lady that’s putting the video out there is playing it off as if the horse is actually getting collected.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
The title is called …
The title is called begining horse riding! Its supose to be a novice rider! They arent just trying to show how to collect a horse but teaching people who dont know how to ride how to. With this horse and rider they are showing the begining process of how to collect your horse and what to look for.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Then they should …
Then they should have picked a more experienced rider if they are trying to put TRAINING videos on the internet. You aren’t going to have a nurse cutting into you if you need brain surgery, so don’t have a novice in the saddle when trying to show the correct way to get a horse collected. Otherwise this video is more of a training one to show how NOT to lower your stirrups and how NOT to get your horse collected.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Well I believe this …
Well I believe this is a green rider and im sure with a more experienced rider this horse could collect
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
yes, but its a bit …
yes, but its a bit slower.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
That horse is not …
That horse is not even close to becoming collected! Pulling him into the bridle is a lot different than collection. This horse is not working off his hind end and has no impulsion.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
is a lope like a …
is a lope like a western version of a canter?
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I don’t get why her …
I don’t get why her reins are so short. I thought she was a western rider? This video sucks anyway.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
IE: Let’s put him …
IE: Let’s put him on the forehand and make him more dependent on the bridle.
No thanks, watch my video and witness collection without a bridle and deliberate pressure.