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What would be a good stud fee for a Palomino Quarter horse and/or a Andalusian horse???
I am going to open a stud farm, so I want to know what would be a good stud fee for both of theses horses.
This is no joke, I am creating a business plan at the moment so I would like to know the stud fees….
You’re lucky I’ve had plenty of sleep last night and am in a normally "helpful" mood.
First of all you have to take into consideration WHAT accomplishments your stallion has done to make the stallion something a mare owner would want to breed their mares to your stallion. You can have the BEST stallions in the US but if they haven’t proven their worth, then they are just another backyard stallion and there’s too many of those around.
With the Palomino QH, besides accomplishments, is he AQHA or AQHA Appendix (AQHA and TB cross)? Appendix stallions can only breed to AQHA mares, where as a regular AQHA stallions can breed to AQHA, Appendix and TB mares (Gives you a wider field.). IF your Appendix Stallion has accomplished enough points, your papers would be changed to Regular AQHA and the field opens up again for you.
As for an Andalusian Stallion there again it’s a matter of accomplishing things, and getting him out and seen. I know a beautiful black Andalusian Stallion who tried to get that done at the Nationals a few years ago only to end up being brought home with a full blown case of founder and a painful road to recovery if he ever does. I’ve seen a LOT of beautiful Andalusian stallions who simply sit in their stalls until their owners decide to go down the trails on Sunday rides (I spent 27 years in the greater Los Angeles area and most of the Andalusian stallion owners there, bred indescrimantely, I know, I own one of their offspring, a now 19 yr old Azteca.).
Now with this information, you have to look at what your area will pay for a stud fee, how you plan on servicing each mare, AI (Then you get to train your stallions on a phantom) or Live Cover (Then you need 2 or 3 people to assist in that proceedure and this cost more $).
Then of course there’s the charges for "mare care", having the vet come out, do a culture on each mare then coming back out to check for a folicle, then back again after you’ve bred to check and make sure there aren’t twins before you send the mare home. Of course the mare owner gets billed for all these vet charges but you need to include a daily rate for feed and handling, not to mention farrier charges for trims, etc.
Unfortunately, there’s no way to really be able to put a dollar amount on what you should charge, because I don’t know your area and what people will pay there but you now have a list of things to keep in mind when determining IF you really want to go this route or not.
I’d also recommend that you find a local stud farm and ask them for a "tour" of their facilities before you start to set it up.
Best of luck.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
do they throw good foals? Are their temperaments calm? good conformation?
$150.00 for the Quarter Horse
$600.00 for the Andalusian
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March 17th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
What’s the pedigree of both?
Is he line bred?
Has he been shown?
What discipline?
What were his earnings?
Conformation?
Live cover only?
A.I. ? (artificial insemination)
Do you have the facilities for this and experienced personnel to perform all of the procedures required?
Frozen shipped?
Will you have available stalls for mare care?
those are all factors of what the fee is.
grade studs (not registered) should not be bred. They should be gelded.
AQHA studs with washed out bloodlines should be gelded in my opinion UNLESS they have been shown and competed and they have proven they are worthy of producing. If never shown, never proven themselves as superior….they are not good enough in my books.
My opinion though. That’s what I look for in a stud.
I’ve seen no name AQHA just starting out in the bizz up for a $250 stud fee and then the well known, well bred studs are even $3000 stud fee.
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March 17th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
I paid for a pure Freisian with good blood lines £500. The contract included a return within the year if the cover was unsuccessful.
Good luck with your business and please disregard the above for some reason, some people on this site feel the need to judge and comment where it’s simply inappropriate.
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March 17th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
that first answer is rude you are simply acting on a sterotype
howerver depending on the market you may be able to do a $500 stud fee for both if they have won coms. mayyb even $750
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March 17th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
You’re lucky I’ve had plenty of sleep last night and am in a normally "helpful" mood.
First of all you have to take into consideration WHAT accomplishments your stallion has done to make the stallion something a mare owner would want to breed their mares to your stallion. You can have the BEST stallions in the US but if they haven’t proven their worth, then they are just another backyard stallion and there’s too many of those around.
With the Palomino QH, besides accomplishments, is he AQHA or AQHA Appendix (AQHA and TB cross)? Appendix stallions can only breed to AQHA mares, where as a regular AQHA stallions can breed to AQHA, Appendix and TB mares (Gives you a wider field.). IF your Appendix Stallion has accomplished enough points, your papers would be changed to Regular AQHA and the field opens up again for you.
As for an Andalusian Stallion there again it’s a matter of accomplishing things, and getting him out and seen. I know a beautiful black Andalusian Stallion who tried to get that done at the Nationals a few years ago only to end up being brought home with a full blown case of founder and a painful road to recovery if he ever does. I’ve seen a LOT of beautiful Andalusian stallions who simply sit in their stalls until their owners decide to go down the trails on Sunday rides (I spent 27 years in the greater Los Angeles area and most of the Andalusian stallion owners there, bred indescrimantely, I know, I own one of their offspring, a now 19 yr old Azteca.).
Now with this information, you have to look at what your area will pay for a stud fee, how you plan on servicing each mare, AI (Then you get to train your stallions on a phantom) or Live Cover (Then you need 2 or 3 people to assist in that proceedure and this cost more $).
Then of course there’s the charges for "mare care", having the vet come out, do a culture on each mare then coming back out to check for a folicle, then back again after you’ve bred to check and make sure there aren’t twins before you send the mare home. Of course the mare owner gets billed for all these vet charges but you need to include a daily rate for feed and handling, not to mention farrier charges for trims, etc.
Unfortunately, there’s no way to really be able to put a dollar amount on what you should charge, because I don’t know your area and what people will pay there but you now have a list of things to keep in mind when determining IF you really want to go this route or not.
I’d also recommend that you find a local stud farm and ask them for a "tour" of their facilities before you start to set it up.
Best of luck.
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Over 40 years of training horses, riders and making/repairing saddles and tack.
March 17th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Since you are just starting out I would say $100.00. Until they have proven them-selves. Then you may want to provide a live foal part, also known as stand and suck. You could also check out stud registrys. If you want to get started and leave a great first impression this is how…………thanks
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March 17th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Regular quarter horses usually are less than an andalusian. I am guessing because there are more to choose from, although if it is a racing QH with winnings, they are more. Andalusians run anywhere from 1,000. to 5,000. to breed to another andalusian, but less to say a QH mare for an Azteca. I think it will all depend on your horses pedigrees, titles, abilities and looks more than on the "breed" of horse. Also, you have to factor in where you live and what the market is looking for in your area. I am in So. Cal. where there are many hispanics looking to cross their QH mares to my andalusian stallion, since the "horse of Mexico" is Azteca. If you live in the midwest, the QH stud may be better, but I can’t say for sure since I don’t live there. Best of luck to you!
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My opinion only.